University Graduate Council Minutes
Wednesday, March 4, 2020
Council in Attendance:
Ahmed Al-Kaisy (Engineering)
Christopher Livingston (Architecture)
Wade Hill (Nursing)
Brock Smith (Agriculture)
Dennis Aig (Arts)
Sobia Anjum (Student Representative)
Lisa Davis (Letters & Science)
Tena Versland (Education)
James Becker (Health & Human Development)
Michael Brody (Faculty Senate)
Marc Giullian (Business)
Also in Attendance:
Lauren Cerretti (Graduate School)
Absent:
Craig Ogilvie (Dean of The Graduate School)
Susan Kollin (Letters & Science)
Sara Mannheimer (Library)
Que Vo (International Programs)
Meeting started at 11:01 am
Approval of February 19, 2020 Minutes
Motion to approve made by Livingston, 2nd by Aig, unanimously passed
Announcements
Faculty Senate Update (Brody)
- Board of Regents meeting in Dillon 3/5/20 (tomorrow)
Old Business
Master of Music in Music Ed revisions (Livingston)
- Non-thesis track
- 1 person committee/advisor listed on Program of Study
- Livingston moves to approve, Davis 2nd, unanimous pass
- Livingston will draft letter to send to Faculty Senate clarifying committee make-up
Master of Music in Music Tech revisions (Livingston)
- Non-thesis track
- 1 person committee/advisor listed on Program of Study
- Livingston moves to approve, Versland 2nd, unanimous pass
- Livingston will draft letter to send to Faculty Senate clarifying committee make-up
Discussion re: length of time to review and approve program proposals can be frustrating to departments; any options to ease the situation?
- UGC meet more often?
- Advertise how long it can take on UGC web?
- No decision
PhD in Exercise & Nutrition Sciences (Livingston)
- Updates noted: Bureau of Labor stats, job opportunities in northwest, admissions requirements, dissertation credits clarified, committee requirements clarified, “considered” versus transfer credits corrected
- Q: Committee credentials notes “PhD prepared individuals” –what does this mean?
- Commonly will be tenurable faculty, but may sometimes be Doctor of Physical Therapy or another credentialed individual
- Livingston moves to approve current proposal (3/2/20 version), Giullian 2nd, unanimous pass
MS in Veterinary Science (Livingston)
- Does a student have to be in WIMU to complete the MVS?
- Yes, it looks like there is no separate entry to the MVS—it’s only used as a “stop out” or a credential along the way to the DVM
- Did they add GS requirements?
- Partly (admissions info and a general statement “must meet all GS requirements”). UGC should check on language regarding “must receive a Pass grade for all courses”—do they mean a literal P grade? Or “passing” grade?
- Would all students get the MVS or just those who stop out?
- Looks like all students could receive the MVS but they have to choose that path as they continue to DVM
- What if student decides they want the MVS after they’ve left and gone to WA?
- Could be problematic/extra work if doing a lot of retroactive awarding of degrees
- Would it be easier to have all students complete the MVS?
- Opt-out instead of opt-in?
- Opt-in is standard, extra fees involved, extra paperwork, etc.
- Opt-out instead of opt-in?
- Could we ask for more comparison info? The programs they list seem to be more definitive
masters (courses & research) versus the proposal, which is 30 credits/first year of
the DVM program
- UGC wants discipline-specific information
- Q: Would MSU be the only school nationally offering MVS for first year of DVM school?
- It is common at MSU for master’s programs to be courses only, en route or otherwise
- Proposal seems light compared to others UGC reviews
- Q: Is there Graduate School en route policy?
- Not specifically, but policy regarding use of credits in the doctoral program that affects en route students
- Q: Is it possible a student could complete the courses and continue in the DVM even
if don’t meet GS GPA policy and therefore cannot earn the MVS?
- Technically, possibly.
- Livingston: How do we want to proceed?
- Do we want Dr. Quinn to come to next meeting or do we want to send further questions
to him?
- What are the questions we want to ask?
- Would MSU be the only school offering the MVS with courses only?
- Can they provide labor/demand statistics for the MVS credential?
- Enhance learning outcomes
- Agreement to invite Dr. Quinn to next UGC meeting (4/1) (Livingston will invite)
- What are the questions we want to ask?
- Do we want Dr. Quinn to come to next meeting or do we want to send further questions
to him?
Graduate Certificate for Dual Enrollment Mathematics Teachers, proposal (Livingston)
- Response from Math regarding why 9 credits
- Because it matches state requirement to teach dual enrollment
- Did they say why they want to create a certificate vs just continuing teaching the
classes?
- Having the certificate might be better optics for a teacher looking to meet the dual enrollment teaching requirement
- Does UGC want to allow 9 credits for a certificate?
- No official GS policy on lower limit for a certificate (Nursing has a 10 credit certificate)
- 9 seems low—below 12 seems too low
- Trying to match state certification seems moot
- General agreement that 12 is a good number but that a GS policy should exist
- Livingston will email Dean Ogilvie about UGC discussion and Council will discuss at next meeting
Adjourned at 12:04 pm
Next scheduled meeting – April 1, 2020 LJ 325